ÓÕÂÊ: ÔHE Ã65 ÓÃÁÍ! (Ò3) ÆÒÏÍ: ÐROFESSOR 12/12/93 Ó#: 740034 ÁFTER KEEPING MY CHECK FOR $95 FOR MONTHS, THE ÇRAPEVINE ÌÉÁÒÓ INFORMED ME BY MAIL TO 'COUGH UP' ANOTHER $53! AND THIS FOR A Ã65 WHICH CAN ÏÎÌÙ WORK IN SOME ÅUROPEAN COUNTRIED THAT USE THE ÐÁÌ SYSTEM! ×HAT 'SCHMUCKS' WOULD ORDER COMPUTERS FOR AN ÁÍÅÒÉÃÁÎ MARKET THAT ÃÁÎ'Ô POSSIBLY WORK! ÉF THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF ÃOMMODORE SUPPORT, THEN IT'S NO WONDER WE'RE IN SUCH A MESS. ÔHE SAME GOES FOR Ñ-ÌINK! ÍR. ÃASE AND HIS 'GANG' ARE SO STRICKEN BY ÁMERICA-ON-ÌINE THAT THEY HAVE FORGOTTEN WHERE THEY GOT THE EXPERIENCE AND KNOW-HOW OF RUNNING A TELECOMMUNICATION SERVICE! ÍY STUDENTS HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THE Ã65 ALL SEMESTER AND THE ÃHRISTMAS VACATION IS NOW AHEAD SO WHAT IS GOING TO KEEP THEM LOYAL TO THE Ã64/Ã128 WHICH É ADVISED THEM TO BUY BECAUSE OF THE ÌÏ× PRICE. -::- ÓÕÂÊ: HMMM... (Ò) ÆÒÏÍ: ÔRANS4MER 12/13/93 Ó#: 747541 I HAVE ORDERED SOME EQUIPMENT FROM THE GRAPEVINE GROUP ABOUT A MONTH AGO... STILL HAVEN'T RECEIVED ALL OF MY EQUIPMENT...I WONDER IF I'M GOING TO HAVE PROBELMS TOO... -::- ÓÕÂÊ: ÇRAPEVINE (Ò) ÆÒÏÍ: ÂAMA ÍAMA 12/13/93 Ó#: 487972 É ORDERED A 1750 ÒÅÕ FROM ÇRAPEVINE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WHEN THEY WERE ADVERTISED FOR $49.95. É FINALLY RECEIVED IT YESTERDAY, AND GUESS WHAT--IT'S USED AND NOT ONLY THAT, IT DOESN'T WORK. ×HEN É CALLED THEM ON THE 800 NUMBER TO COMPLAIN AND TO GET THE ÒETURN ÍATERIALS ÁUTHORIZATION NUMBER TO RETURN IT, É WAS TOLD THAT É WOULD HAVE TO CALL BACK LONG DISTANCE (AT MY EXPENSE) AND TALK TO A TECHNICIAN. ÈAS ANYONE ELSE RECEIVED A 1750 FROM THEM THAT ÄÉÄ WORK? -::- ÓÕÂÊ: ÔHANKS ÆÒÏÍ: ÌIGHTS 12/20/93 Ó#: 748425 ÔHANKS EVERYBODY, É WAS THINKING OF ORDERING SOMETHING FROM THEM. ÎÏÔ ÎÏ×! ÌIGHTS -::- ÓÕÂÊ: ÆINAL Ã65 NOTICE.:( (Ò8) ÆÒÏÍ: ÌT×ORF5 11/27/93 Ó#: 745893 ×ELL,ÆÉÎÁÌÌÙ GOT SOMETHING FROM GRAPEVINE ABOUT THE Ã65..BUT ÎÏÔ THE COMPUTER.:( ÔHE LETTER WANTED TO THANK ME FOR MY ORDER OF THE Ã65 AND THAT THE FIRST BATCH THAT WAS SHIPPED WAS SAID TO BE TAKEN ÖÅÒÙ WELL. ÂÕÔ..(DONT YA HATE BUTS?;)) THE SECONDS BATCH DIDNT COME WITH THE ÎÔÓà CONVERSION,THEY WERE ALL ÐÁÌ,NOT COMPATIBLE WITH ÕÓ STUFF.:( ÎOW MY QUESTION...IS THERE ÁÎÙ×ÁÙ IF É GO AHEAD AND GET THE ÐÁÌ VERSION,OF GETTING IT CONVERTED BY A LOCAL DEALER/REPAIRER OR DOING IT MYSELF? ×HATS ALL INVOLVED?? ÁNYONE GET THE ÎÔÓà VERSION Ã65?:/ ÐLEASE HELP!:) ×ORF -::- ÓÕÂÊ: HELP FOR WARF (Ò) ÆÒÏÍ: ÃÁÐÔ ÑÕÉÒË 11/27/93 Ó#: 745929 NOT TO UNDERSTAND... IS THIS A POWER OR A SOFTWARE PROBLEM? IF POWER GET POWER CONVERTER FROM MILITARY BASE STORE IF SOFTWARE GET IT FROM ÐÅÔ USERS GROUP.. ÌOGGIE -::- ÓÕÂÊ: POWER (Ò) ÆÒÏÍ: ÍETRIX 11/28/93 Ó#: 746181 IT IS A POWER PROBLEM.240 VS 115 ALSO WORF DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THIS COMP. É MIGHT BUY ONE IF É KNOW MORE É HEARD IT IS 128K AND NOT 64 ALSO DOES IT HAVE A 64 MODE CAN 64K ÖÄà BE INSTALLED,OR JIFFY ÄÏÓ HOW MANY DRIVES CAN BE USED WITH THIS? ANY AND ALL TECHNICAL NEWS WOULD BE APPRECIATED. ÔÈÁÎØ!!!! -::- ÓÕÂÊ: ÍORE THAN JUST POWER (Ò) ÆÒÏÍ: ÓÙÓÏÐ ÂÊÈ 11/30/93 Ó#: 461989 ÉT'S ALSO A VIDEO STANDARDS PROBLEM. ÏN A Ã-64, A REPLACEMENT CRYSTAL AND ÖÉÃ-ÉÉ WILL DO IT. ÎOT HAVING SEEN THE INSIDES OF A Ã-65, É DON'T KNOW WHAT IT TAKES. -::- ÓÕÂÊ: ÒUMORS (Ò) ÆÒÏÍ: ÒIDGEÒUNR 11/30/93 Ó#: 463589 ÔHE RUMOR WAS THAT THIS WAS THE LONG DEBATED Ã65ÇÓ, BUT THAT IS SUPPOSEDLY INCORRECT. ÉT IS SIMPLY A Ã64 WITH A CASE MOUNTED 1581, NOTHING FANCY OR DIFFERENT OTHER THAN THAT. ÆRED ÂOWEN OF ÃÂÍ SAID RIGHT HERE ON Ñ THAT THE Ã64ÇÓ NEVER MADE IT TO PRODUCTION, SO É BELEIVE THIS ONE IS A SIMPLE MODIFICATION TO ADD A 1581. -::- ÓÕÂÊ: Ã65 (Ò) ÆÒÏÍ: ÍETRIX 12/01/93 Ó#: 466249 GRAPEVINE TOLD ME IT WAS 128K SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN A 64 WITH 2 BANKS OF ROM AND A SWICHER OR THE REAL ÍC ÃOY ?????????? -::- ÓÕÂÊ: ÕMM... (Ò) ÆÒÏÍ: ÌT×ORF5 12/02/93 Ó#: 475872 ..CALLED GRAPEVINE....DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY. ÔHE ÐÁÌ VERSION ÃÁÎ ÎÏÔ BE CONVERTED BY REPLACING CHIPS FROM ANOTHER 64. É ASKED UM,THEY SAID NO.:/ ÔHE Ã65 ×ÁÓ PRODUCED IN ÅUROPE BECUASE THE 64 IS DOING WELL OVER IN ÅUROPE,AS IS THE ÁMIGA. ÁND É WANTED ONE SO BAD.:( :ÄÄ -::- ÓÕÂÊ: ×ELL, IF YOU MUST HAVE ÐÁÌ (Ò) ÆÒÏÍ: ÁMBASSADOR 12/03/93 Ó#: 746679 ...FIND A NEARBY MILITARY BASE AND ASK AROUND. ÔÖ'S SOLD IN ÅUROPEAN ÐØ'S ARE USUALLY DUAL STANDARD. ÔHEY CAN RECEIVE BOTH ÐÁÌ AND ÎÔÓÃ. ÓOMEONE JUST BACK FROM ÇERMANY MIGHT SELL YOU HIS USED ÔÖ. ÔHE 60ÈZ POWER MIGHT BE A PROBLEM (AT THE VERY LEAST, ANY TIME SETTINGS WILL BE WRONG) BUT IT'S HARD TO SAY HOW MUCH OF ONE. -::- ÓÕÂÊ: ÁS FOR MEMORY.... ÆÒÏÍ: ÌT×ORF5 12/08/93 Ó#: 472563 .. ÙES,THE Ã65 IS 128Ë. ÄONT KNOW HOW THEY DO IT,AND NEVER WILL,SINCE THEY DONT HAVE ÎÔÓà VERSIONS.:/ -::- ÓÕÂÊ: Ã65 UPDATE.:/ (Ò3) ÆÒÏÍ: ÌT×ORF5 11/13/93 Ó#: 743516 ÁS OF YET (2 MONTHS+) É HAVE YET TO RESEIVE MY Ã65 FROM ÇRAPEVINE! É CALLED THEM 3 TIMES,LAST TIME THEY SAID THEY JUST STARTED SHIPPING THEM....THAT WAS 2 WEEKS AGO. ÉLL GIVE THEM 1-2 MORE WEEKS,THEN ÉM CALLING THE ÂÂÂ,MAYBE THEY CAN GET SOMETHING OUT OF EM.:/ ÁNYONES HAVING TROUBLE?? ÁNYONE ELSE ÇÅÔ THEIRS?:) ×ORF -::- ÓÕÂÊ: ... (Ò) ÆÒÏÍ: ÊOHNÓ10173 11/13/93 Ó#: 743626 ÇRAPEVINE PURCASED A ÔÏÎ OF COMMODORE STUFF RECENTLY. É HEAR IT WAS SO MUCH STUFF, THAT THE AMOUNT OVERWHELMED THEM AND THEY HAD TO FIND ADDITIONAL STORAGE FACILITIES. É'D HANG ON A BIT, BEFORE I CALLED THE ÂÂÂ. ÇRAPEVINE IS A REPUTABLE COMPANY. -::- ÓÕÂÊ: ÌÏÁÄÓÔÁÒ HAS (Ò) ÆÒÏÍ: ÆUTUREÔECH 11/13/93 Ó#: 743649 PURCHASED A Ã-65. ×E'RE STILL WAITING, TOO. -::- ÓÕÂÊ: Ï.K... ÆÒÏÍ: ÌT×ORF5 11/15/93 Ó#: 742990 ÇUESS ÉLL WAIT A LITTLE LONGER.:) É WOULD THINK ÇRAPEVINE WOULD BE A RELIABLE COMPANY,SINCE ÉVE SEEN EM IN ÍAG. FOR YEARS,AND ALSO THE INV. OF Ã= AND ÁMIGA STUFF. ÂUT,BEING KLINGON,É CANT ×ÁÉÔ!!;ÄÄ :É= ×ORF